In class we discussed the Hobby lobby case and how it was decided. In this forum you should discuss the possible repercussions of the decisions. What does the hobby lobby decision mean for religious rights, the rights of corporations, the rights of women, the rights of gays, and others. Refer to the articles linked for ideas.
MSNBC The Horrors of Hobby Lobby
WSJ- The Hobby Lobby decisons and its distortions
FOX: Hobby Lobby: Why the Supreme Court got it right
NYT- What HObby Lobby means for America
The Hobby Lobby case will cause major repercussions in the future. One big consequence is that now people will use religious beliefs as an excuse to exempt themselves from the law. This is not good because now people can use religion as an excuse not to pay fines for instance. This decision also sets a precedent that corporations can make their employees follow their religious beliefs. Just because the owners of Hobby Lobby don's believe in four contraceptive methods, doesn't mean all of their employees agree. It's not like all of their 13,000 employees are Christian. And even those of them who are, that doesn't mean they agree with that belief. It is not fair to deny their employees or the right to get certain contraceptives through healthcare. Doesn't this go against the first amendment that everyone has the right to their own religion? The owners can believe what the want, but they cannot force their workers to follow those same religious beliefs. This also affects the rights of gays and women. What if a corporation refused to hire someone who is gay because it goes against their beliefs? The court could rule in favor of the gay, however a precedent has still been set due to this case. In conclusion, the Hobby Lobby case sets a precedent that could lead to repercussions in the future.
ReplyDeleteThe Burwell vs Hobby Lobby case will have lasting effects throughout America. Businesses can use this case as an excuse to discriminate employees with different beliefs than them. More and more people will misinterpret the first amendment, and use their religion to justify bending or breaking the law. There are now more opportunities for anyone to discriminate against women, gays, and others because of this precedent. For example, corporations might include a religious test as a requirement in interviews. Companies will think they have the right to deny gays employment because it is something they do not believe in, and therefore think should have the right to refuse them. Although the Burwell vs. Hobby Lobby case can be looked at as sexist, the main issue is freedom of religion. As much as I believe you should not have to support something you strongly disagree with, Hobby Lobby should not limit their employees by their personal views. In summary, the Supreme Court’s ruling on this case has deepened discrimination and will continue to cause repercussions.
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DeleteThe Hobby Lobby vs Burwell conflict has created many repercussions. One of which is that people think they can start doing illegal things and say it’s for their religion. For religious rights, the Hobby Lobby decision means that because of someone’s religion they don’t have to supply their employees with health care because it includes birth control which they don’t believe in. The rights for corporations are that they have to supply their employees with health care otherwise they have to pay each employee $2,000 to buy their own healthcare. I personally don’t think it shouldn’t have to go to that extent just because birth control is against the owner’s religion. If it’s against the owner’s religion that doesn’t mean the employees have the same religious views as them, that’s how this conflict started anyway. In conclusion, the Hobby Lobby vs Burwell act has caused many discussions on how religious views are starting to become an excuse, not a true belief.
ReplyDeleteThe decision in the Hobby Lobby case will cause many repercussions in the future. Because the Hobby Lobby case used the first amendment to say that the contraception went against their reliefs, other people can claim exemption from higher crimes by saying it goes against their religion. This also gives people the right to object to what the government says if it's against their beliefs. The decision in the Hobby Lobby case can have LGBT and women right supporters to claim discrimination in the name of religion. This caused LGBT to withdraw from the employment non-discrimination act, because of their fear of religious exemption. If the Hobby Lobby company doesn't have to provide certain contraceptions because of their religion, work places might start hiring people
ReplyDeleteThe Hobby lobby vs Burwell conflict will have huge repercussions. This will help more people try and use religion as a reason to do illegal things because this case proved that the supreme court will rule with you. Since the owners of Hobby Lobby did not provide the healthcare to their employees they aren't having to pay their employees the money that these healthcare medications cost. Which means that Hobby Lobby should then provide the money that the contraceptives cost because they aren't cheap and this is saving Hobby Lobby a lot of money, that they shouldn't be able to save. So, this will have businesses start to use religion in their companies so they might not have to provide certain things to their employees. I think this ruling of the supreme court was not ruled correctly because it will cause many repercussions on businesses and employees everywhere.
ReplyDeleteI think that the Court ruling in favor of Hobby Lobby not providing birth control for its employees will have many repercussions. For example, this ruling sets the precedent that ‘religious beliefs’ can always be used as an excuse. It also sets the precedent that business and religion doesn’t have to be separated like they are supposed to. This will allow many corporation and business owners to abuse power on their employees who don’t necessarily agree with them 100% in religious aspects. This ruling also indirectly supports defying women their rights because they are the ones who are going to need birth control. So, this ruling basically supports sexist views. Gay rights go hand in hand with women’s rights. If a business has the ability to tell women they won’t provide birth control because it is ‘against their religion’, what is going to stop them from refusing to give gays the rights they deserve? In the end I believe this was a bad ruling by the Supreme Court, and it will have serious consequences later on.
ReplyDeleteI feel that the Hobby Lobby case will have a major impact on many aspects in our society. In my opinion, religious rights we strengthened, and it was for the better. We have the freedom of religion and nobody should be able to tell us where and when we are allowed to demonstrate our religion. In the hobby lobby case, the government was fighting that businesses should not be allowed to make decisions/enforce a religion on their business. I do not agree with this. I feel that because it is a person’s business, they should decide the rules and if an employee doesn’t agree, they should find somewhere else to work. Some may say that not allowing women the ability to get one type of birth control is sexist. I do not see how it could be sexist. Hobby lobby was not discriminating against women, they just did not feel that the birth control was needed for a women’s health. Contraceptives are not necessary in a women’s life. Women have the choice of abstinence. Therefore, Hobby Lobby did not find it necessary to include that contraceptive because it went against their faith. Now that business are fighting for the religious freedom that they deserve, it may impact gay people. Depending on the faith, the owner of a business may not believe in gay marriage and therefore should not be required to recognize this marriage for their business purposes. I don’t think that doing that is discriminatory. In the end, it is that the business should be able to decide if their policies are worth losing a customer, which is the true definition of a free market for which this country’s economy is based.
ReplyDeleteI think that the supreme courts ruling on the Hobby Lobby case against Burwell was a really bad ruling that will have horrible repercussions. When the federal government places a law saying that every business has to pay a tax to provide health care to it's employees that work full time then all the businesses should pay it. By ruling the way they did the court is saying that businesses have religion. This is an opening for other companies to take this loop-hole and take advantage of it. These owners are so selfish that they would put their own beliefs before the 13,000 employees that are depending on them to provide for the otherwise very expensive cost of birth control. Even if the employee doesn't use birth control they are discriminating against women. Since men don't have to use contraceptives they are getting all of the coverage they need but on the flip side women aren't getting the full coverage they need. This is giving the businesses the right to deny their employees some of their rights because their religion gets in the way. This will have serious consequences for the government because of this ruling. Other businesses will take advantage and eventually they won't have to do anything.
ReplyDeleteI think the Hobby Lobby Case will have many potential consequences. An example from the trial is that many businesses will try and use the first amendment as an excuse for their personal beliefs. I believe that the businesses are trying to find ways to cut down on their health insurance expenses and this is a constitutional loop-hole that they found. Depending on the percentage of women out of the 13,000 employees, eliminating that group of people can potentially lead to significant savings for the company. It is their way of saying that they are not wrong for their actions because they are legally entitled to have their company viewed as a person, according to the constitution. The biggest argument that I have is that contraception is not always used as a form of birth control. Contraception can have various medical reasons to be used, for example, hormonal stability. I don’t think that Hobby Lobby was ever trying to discriminate against any particular group of people. If it was such a big deal to the employees they always have the option to leave and work somewhere else as well as pay for their own contraception. In conclusion, I think this particular case can give companies a way to promote their own discriminatory agenda by sighting the Hobby Lobby case.
ReplyDeleteFor this specific topic, both topics being ruled over or lost againest, will have beneficial and unbeneficial standpoints. If u rule towards Hobby Lobby not having to sell healthcare to their employees, you would please the Christian owners, as they will be able to practice their religion freely. However, if u rule that they don't have to sell the contraceptives, you can most likely bring anger to some employees would would like to be provided with this healthcare. Therefore, concluding that observation of anger, the business owners will most likely lose employees because the employees would quit their jobs. However, if u rule saying that Hobby Lobby has to provide for their employees, you are restricting the catholic owners from amendment 1, freedom of religion. Either way, there are ups and downs to siding with either side, but in the end, with more support and backup examples, I feel that Hobby Lobby should have to sell healthcare to their employees.
ReplyDeleteI think Burwell vs. Hobby Lobby will leave its mark on the government and hopefully progress the movement of the LGBT community. However, the repercussions of the Supreme court's decision leaves a new question: does this mean all companies have the rights established for individual people, specifically the freedom of religion or therefore absence of? If companies do have religious rights, then, to what extent?
ReplyDeletefeel that Hobby Lobby should have to provide the contraceptives. I believe this because when you own a business you cannot control others beliefs, and if they want the birth control it should be provided to them. Although Hobby Lobby has the right to freedom of the religion that does not mean they can deny some one a contraceptive. Not providing the birth control could lead to a higher abortion rate, and isn't that way against Hobby Lobby’s beliefs? If Hobby Lobby doesn't provide the contraceptive many issues will arise and cause consequences. The company is using their religion in order to get out of paying for something that is necessary, and this is bending laws at the same time. This company may believe that this is not a necessity but it truly is, and this only effects women which also shows how sexist the company would be to deny women this privilege. If the supreme court were to rule that the company did not have to provide than even more discrimination would be encouraged. In summary, I feel that the supreme court should rule that Hobby Lobby has to pay for the contraceptive for the people who wish to use it and work for their company.
ReplyDeleteThe Burrell vs. Hobby Lobby case will have many reprocussions in the foreseeable future. Buisnesses have the right to practice there own religion through freedom of speech , but without interfering with an employees or anyone else's rights. Birth control and other necessary services are mandated by law, therefore needs to be supplied by someone's employer regardless of his or her religion.
ReplyDeleteThe case of Burrell vs. Hobby Lobby has brought out many good points: Buisness owners have the right to practice there own religion and beliefs through the first amendment, but it shouldn't contradict employee's or customer's rights. It is also mandated by law that buisness owners must provide Birth Control regardless of his religion and beliefs.
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